Page 1 of 1
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:25 pm
How does HW determine stalling? A timed game gives you 60 seconds to throw a card. I'm tired of being accused of stalling, when I'm trying to think my hand through. Tell me the time limit and I will obey it.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:34 pm
you can im me and we can talk about it. I think you remember where to find me..........
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:14 am
The way I see it, the timeout is a way of making sure a player won't stall or stop playing and make everyone mad.
I think it can be useful if a player has to run quick for something or if someone wants to think a lil more about a certain difficult bid or any difficult decision that has to be made in the game.
But, to me personally, letting timer run out each and every time it's your turn, is rude and unfair to the other players who expect to have a fun fast game. So yes, I consider letting the timer run out to make every move, as stalling.
That doesn't mean you can't do it, cause the timeout option is there for you to use, but, I would suggest, as a courtesy for the other 3 players of the table, that, if you do intend to let timer run out every hand you play, you should warn them before the game starts, in case somebody wants to leave before game starts.
Me, I would definitely leave the game as fast as I came in, unless the reason for the stalling is a physical disability of a player , in which case I would wait forever if necessary.
Basically, in other words, I feel it is your option if you want to let timer run out, but it should be the other players option to decide if they want to join a game like that.
This is only MY personal opinion on your question, not insinuating at any moment that it is hw's rule or anything like that. Just MY OPINION about how it should be used by players.
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:31 am
the way i understood your post.. you are sitting in a game without the timeout feature being used.
In my opinion.. If the complainers at your table feel you are taking to long to bid, if they want a faster bidding game they
1) need to sit/set/play at TIMEOUT set games only
2) need to try playing mirrors instead
3) should work on their patience levels.
Ive played games with people who are having bad connection days where they tend to stall a little before every play, It isnt their fault, and they dont want to up and quit and ruin the game for others. Ive also played games with handicapped persons, and just thorough bid-thinkers in general. You really can tell the difference between someone who thinks their bid thoroughly and someone who just stalls for the hell-of-it.
Just a little patience and understanding isnt to much to ask of people.
I do have a question though, do you play point value or timed games? I think this also makes a huge difference between whats an "acceptable" stall for thinking through a bid. A 30 to 60 second stall each hand for each bidder can hinder the outcome of a 10 minute timed game.
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:40 am
We have certain players who when things don't go their way STALL to deliberatly either irritate the other players, or to get the players frustrated enough to quit.
They are not handicaped, they are not thinking about what card to play, they are stalling on purpose. If it becomes obvious this is what they are doing they will be warned to play or they will be kicked from the game. Stalling a game on purpose is against the rules.
Most times, if the players at the table know the player can't help it, is new and needs to think longer, is handicaped, is even being distracted by kids or something going on at home, they will be more patient. However if the player has made it obvious they are stalling people loose patience pretty fast.
So I would say it depends on the situation and probably how often it happens, at what point in the game is it (like only when your losing bad, only when someone has done something you don't like etc.)