Against *weird* Kids. . .

*Is it necessary, to have a main Password for HW games

Yes please!! My children doesnt behave at all!!
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No, my kids never use bad language and they can play
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Post by Mompsu » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:46 pm

Maybe~

SCE shall give a possibility ( by choise) to open all Hardwood games with a password that only the owner of Games
can have an access. Its predicilous if someone`s kids ruin with a bad language the lifetime membership.. :roll: *

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Post by HEXA » Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:06 pm

That's a good idea. :) Im sure this topic is stemming from those posts i see created then deleted lol

However, I think that kids will be kids.. but parents have to be parents too. One (some) of the teachings in parenting is language and minding your P's & Q's. The rules of the site are pretty plain.. They are something a 13 yr old should comprehend. If a parent cannot make these rules clear to a child of 13 and up and see to it they follow them.. He needs to do what it takes to assure their account isnt compromised by the child. Lock up the computer.. yes this is extreme.. But THIS is parenting.

When an account is banned due to the actions of the child then that parent to has a lesson to learn. Having to buy a second membership because the first was banned due to actions of children.. let that be a lesson to both the child and the parent. Because BOTH parent and child are responsible. I, myself, am responsible for everything my child says and does until he is 18. Whether i am a "good" parent or not.

If my child were to jump on the net (against my rules btw) then jump on HW and act against the rules of the site I would expect HW to punish me by a banning because I allowed it to happen even if he did it against my will and teachings (meaning i tell him not to and he does anyway), forcing me to buy another.. then It is my job to punish my child for his actions. WE are both responsible.

Furthermore.. I EXPECT hw to make this a place i can feel comfortable allowing my child to be at. If they arent banning people for language then MY money isnt well spent..

I can go listen to trash talk at a free place.. I paid for HW because what it DOESNT allow and put up with.

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Post by Mompsu » Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:20 pm

Dear Hexa~

Firstly.. thy for your agreeing with me :) ~

Secondly.. U cannot be responsible for your kid all the time. I dont know how old are your children, but. In the certain age they just try
to do everything against a parents will and push the lines. And on this point i find it very unfair for those poor players to get banned cuz
of theyr kids thought ala* nothing will happend anyway, that my daddy just tries to scare me* ..


( PS. I personaly dont have any children, but remember very well my this *crazy age* .. lmao... :shock: )
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Post by grandmaS » Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:31 pm

You can password protect your computer, so your kids can't go on it at all (or anyone else who is visiting your home)

This would protect you, your computer and any keys to any games you have.

You can allow them if you have only the one computer in the house, to have their own log in and only put in that log in the stuff you want them to be able to access.

We have mulitple computers in our house all have passwords (even the kids) they are never allowed on mine, rarely on my hubbys and on theirs when their chores and home work is done. Theirs has no internet connection (they are ten and five), they can go on my hubbys on a separate account with our permisson if (the older one) has a homework project where he needs to look something up on the internet.

Everyone has to decide for themselves how much access they want their kids to have. And then be responsilbe for that decission, if you let your kids use your computer and they delete an important file its your loss and there may not be any getting it back or it maybe very expensive. Same if they go in a game with your key and misbehave, its your key you are responsible to see to it that it is used responsibly by you and by anyone you allow access to it.

Its all part of being responsible. And through being responsible, you are also teaching them to be. Don't make it I don't trust you, make it I am being responsible for my things, when your old enough to buy your own key you can be responsible for it :)
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Post by HEXA » Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:35 pm

Hi :) yw, it is a good idea.
In the certain age they just try
to do everything against a parents will and push the lines.
I was young once :) I know this to be true. I was a wild child ;)

BUT regardless of what i did, and how "good" or "bad" my parents were, they were responsible for me. They paid for things i destroyed, they were held accountable for every bad AND good (btw) action i did. I think my dad got a stripe taken away in the air force because of something me and my sister chose to do that we KNEW was wrong. He was punished for his lack in keeping us from doing this action, and he then punished us because we did it, and daddy used switches and boards but we sure learned our lessons lol. They were held accountable, and then i was held accountable.

ps.. A whole computer can be password protected through windows :)
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Post by lose to me » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:40 pm

i think kids will be kids and if someone loses a lifetime membership for it....then its hw fault for not understanding and its ridiculous to have to buy another membership. and being good parents or not has nothing to do with it........the paid membership is just not worth it........hw is not understanding and doesn't care.........all they want is the membership fee you'll have to pay in getting another account

so why not start banning when sales are slow
its a gimmic and i would not recommend buying a lifetime till your banned membership

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Post by HW_Heaven » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:48 pm

Take HW out of the equation.

Let's say I own a membership to a gym or taning salon, and my children are on the membership with me. My child goes to the establishment and gets into a fight. I lose my membership because my child broke the rules.

First it is my responsibility to make sure they are behaving, secondly it is the owners preference as to what is and isn't allowed in the establishment.

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Post by lose to me » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:52 pm

awwww i get it!
NOT!
the internet is a fantasy place not a real place. so the equation is as follows
hw+money+memberships+bans=unsatisfied customers
thats how i see it

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Post by HW_Heaven » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:56 pm

awwww i get it!
NOT!
the internet is a fantasy place not a real place. so the equation is as follows
hw+money+memberships+bans=unsatisfied customers
thats how i see it
Hmmm let's try it this way...
kids+computer+profanity/porn+parents=LAWSUITS!!!

Do you ever watch Dateline? The child predators? Allowing certain things unless it for 18+ (in which a company would have to MAKE SURE that kids can't get to it) could cost the owners more than what it's worth.

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Post by lose to me » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:02 pm

ummmm
the subject is kids
did you misread something somewhere?

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Post by HW_Heaven » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:09 pm

Yes this was about kids and the purpose for why HW has the rules it has. This is a 13 and up site. When my kids go to school I get a release form so that the school can show PG movies to the kids. I guarantee you that if the school did not have those releases signed then parent's could sue the school. In fact that's probably why we have the releases now.

A person can't say that the internet is fantasy when so many people get hurt DAILY on the internet. Can't say it's not a REAL place because the users are in fact REAL people.

I think what is strange to me is that you are more concerned with the ban then your children's behavior.

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Post by Mompsu » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:11 pm

Well..

We cant be responsible for ALL things that kids they do.. Even a law tells that by certain action of children parents are not guilty. We cant even control on the streets the words that the lil sneaky jun. will suddenly spread out, we cant keep the lock on the mouth of kids and filter everything he says.

I do hope SCE will have a better look @ this kind of sensitive cases and forgive those poor players that became a victim of the kid`s nasty mouth.

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Post by grandmaS » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:12 pm

No she didn't misread, but you are stuck on your point of view and aren't reading or caring what anyone else is saying.

She was pointing out that this site has RULES partly because they want it to be a clean site for all and partly because we allow kids 13 and up here.

Seeing as how that is stated when you buy the program the parents of the kids who bought it for that reason would be seriously TICKED off if we allowed this type of thing.

Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo there are Rules and if you or YOUR kids can't follow the rules you lose the right to play nice with others online. Online or off line the world is full of rules and that is something you and your kids need to get used to.

And I would be more inclined to want to see some forgiveness here if I saw some regret and accepting of responsibilty on the part of the parent. But since there doesn't seem to be any to me it says if SCE was to "forgive" and let them back we would shortly see a repeat performance which again would be against the rules of the site.
Take the steps to control your kids and those you allow to use your account, computer, keys, etc. the ruling has been made the choice is now up to you.
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Post by HEXA » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:16 pm

Lose, your children are adults one is over 18 the other is 18 or approaching 18.. Your first posts (on the other deleted threads) made it sound as if we were speaking of actual "children" not young adults who TOTALLY knew better.
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Post by lose to me » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:18 pm

my kids are adults now it was 3 years ago....so granma heaven dont worry about us but ty for your concern.
i was just posting my comments...........
just read over them if you dont like them
and yes im telling my opinion and no im not worry about yours this isnt your forum...if you would like to start a topic then read the directions

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