Kick/Ban

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Kick/Ban

Post by Memphoman » Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:29 pm

It is very exasperating to kick/ban someone and they just continue to return again and again and again. Sometime they come back in and try and kick/ban the host. Why cannot kick/ban be permanent / semipermanent. Personally, if I kick/ban in 1 game, not much chance I will want them to join my games at other times. Why not a system like "Ignore" list, added till rescinded.

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Post by omni_555 » Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:36 pm

The only practical way to do what you are suggesting is to have an "invite" feature so that you can control who comes to your table. Setting up a kick/ban that carries over from one game to another isn't really very practical, and I believe would be extremely difficult to incorporate into the programming. 8)
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Post by Memphoman » Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:51 am

well, I have had the unfrotunate pleasure of kicking/ban the same person up to 15 sucessive times, because he has some idiotic point to make. quick as they get in the trash mouth, other players leave so they don't have to put with this persons childish behavior. If Kick/ban works in the game, the mechanism should not be that difficult to incorporate in the start. IS calling a guide my only recourse? I do all I can do, kick/ban them even tell them in lobby that they R not welcome in my games, just some just persist, claiming they are intent on fouling up my games.

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Post by omni_555 » Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:39 pm

Kind of a rough situation there Memphoman... You mean that when you start up new games he comes in and sits or otherwise makes a nuisance of himself? If you kick/ban him from your table (I assume you are talking about when you are hosting), then he cannot come back, at least not with that nick.

As for preventing a player from changing nicks and coming back, there isn't really much that SCE can do about THAT one!!!

Maybe if this person is being such a nuisance and an idiot in YOUR games, he is doing the same to someone ELSE. File a report every time that he creates a disturbance, and maybe THEN SCE will be able to get something done!

As for the 15 times you had to k/b this person in succession, at least this would only occur when you left your table and set up a new one. And so this should not be a GREAT inconvenience.

It WOULD be nice, tho, if people like that could take a hint and just stay away - or if not then PLAY NICE! 8)
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Post by Memphoman » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:49 pm

I mean while I am still waiting for 3 to join. A player sat down, I nicely asked him to depart as I did not want to play a game with him. He made no comment, just stayed at table. I kick/ban'd him, of course he departed, but, came right back and took another position. I kick/ban'd again, and this went on for another 10 attempts. I finally closed the game myself, he held the table for another minute or so, then he returned to the lobby. I initiated another game, and he started it all over again, he sits, I kick/ban, he is kicked, but, sits down again and the whole cycle started over again. Yes he can come back, over and over and over again at least until the game actually starts. This players antics made other players that had taken a seat to leave also. Kicks works but until the game actually starts, he is NOT banned and he can continue to come back. He was taking the hint, his desire was to prevent me from playing another game until HE decided that I could. This was one of those occasions when their were no guides available, or at least not answering to my request.

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Post by XtesterX » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:34 am

Pre-game Kick/Ban (host's option) doesn't work properly, never did, it just kicks.

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Post by omni_555 » Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:59 pm

Hmmm... Maybe something for SCE to look into... But even if they DO fix that, a nuisance player will still find ways around it (changing nicks for instance...).

But thankfully there are a precious FEW players like that. Guess it's just something that we will have to learn to live with, especially when there are no Guides around.

...Just a thought... Does the server save any "game" info in a situation like this before a game begins??? Or is there any way to report people like this in such a way that there can be evidence of what they are doing??? That would be ONE way of getting them out of your hair!!! 8)
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Post by XtesterX » Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:26 am

if you set a table, there will be a record of it under your 'replay game' option, complete will gamelog number, as long as you have that option enabled

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Post by omni_555 » Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:16 am

XtesterX wrote:if you set a table, there will be a record of it under your 'replay game' option, complete will gamelog number, as long as you have that option enabled
Hmmm... TRIED it. Set a table and had a few discussions with a few people who joined, and then abandoned the table without starting a game. NO record of it in my game logs...

Also, I have replayed several games where I have been waiting for long periods of time before starting the game (usually waiting for the seats to fill...) but when I replay the game logs they generally begin when the game starts and end when the game is over...

Maybe I am missing something, or doing something wrong??? 8)
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Post by XtesterX » Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:35 am

I don't know omni, I just made table, started game with bots, then left, gamelog was there in 'replay game'


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GameLog opened Sunday July 16, 2006, 06:38:39 AM

# GameLogs are machine-readable, so some lines will look like nonsense.
# To view in game, choose Options then Replay from the Main Menu.

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ClientBuild: 73
ServerBuild: 64
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TeamGame : False
Rules : Rated, 300 pts, Timeout, Cut Deck, No Shoot Bonuses, Jack of Diamonds, Spot Hearts, Always Pass
GameFlags : 00010001
LocalPlayer: South 418402
Host : South

PlayerJoined South 418402: XtesterX
PlayerName 418402: XtesterX
PlayerInfo 418402: {}Ogre{}
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Score : Team 1 has 0 Points
Score : Team 2 has 0 Points
Score : Team 3 has 0 Points
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HandScore: West 0 points
HandScore: North 0 points
HandScore: East 0 points
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PlayerJoined West 36 Bot: Shorty
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PlayerJoined North 37 Bot: Sir Lancelot
PlayerInfo 37: NONE{}Sir Lancelot{}
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Chat Action from Server = Lobby Server: This will NOT be a rated game. You have to have at least 4 human players.
Rules : Unrated, 300 pts, Timeout, Cut Deck, No Shoot Bonuses, Jack of Diamonds, Spot Hearts, Always Pass

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Pass South -> West: 2c 0c Ah
Pass West -> North: Jh 6d Ac
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DoPass

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Play North: Ac
Play East: Qc
Play South: Kc
TrickWon: North (0 0 0 0)

Play North: 6s
Play East: 5s
Play South: Js
Play West: 0s
TrickWon: South (0 0 0 0)

Play South: 4c
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Play North: Kh
HeartsBroken
Play East: Jc
TrickWon: East (0 0 13 0)

Play East: 3s
Play South: 8s
Play West: 9s
Play North: 4s
TrickWon: West (0 0 0 0)

Play West: 6c
Play North: Jh
Play East: 9c
Play South: Ks
Foom East -> East: Slosh
TrickWon: East (0 0 11 0)

Play East: 5d
Play South: 9d
Play West: Ah
Play North: 8d
TrickWon: South (0 14 0 0)

Play South: 2s
Play West: 0h
Play North: Kd
Play East: As
TrickWon: East (0 10 0 0)

Play East: 0d
Play South: 4d
Play West: 9h
Play North: 7d
TrickWon: East (0 9 0 0)

Play East: 8c
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Play West: 5c
Play North: 7h
TrickWon: East (12 0 7 0)

Play East: Qd
Play South: 2d
Play West: 0c
Play North: 6d
TrickWon: East (0 0 0 0)

Play East: 7s
Play South: 4h
Play West: 6h
Play North: 3h
TrickWon: East (4 6 3 0)

Play East: 8h
Play South: Ad
Play West: 5h
Play North: 2h
TrickWon: East (0 5 2 8)

Play East: Qs
Play South: Jd
Play West: 3c
Play North: 3d
TrickWon: East (-40 0 0 50)

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Score : Team 1 has 0 Points
Score : Team 2 has 0 Points
Score : Team 3 has 100 Points

HandDone


NewHand: 2

Dealer: South
Cut: 20
Deal South: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
Deal West: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
Deal North: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
Deal East: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


QueryPass: 3 Right
PlayerLeftMsg: This game has been abandoned, your rating has not changed.
PlayerLeft 418402: XtesterX


GameLog closed Sunday July 16, 2006, 06:40:05 AM

Signature: 8E9F813DDB3404AC9A18148238D3CBDB

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Post by XtesterX » Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:46 am

here I set table, invited three bots, 'chatted' kicked and replaced bots, then left table..

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GameLog opened Sunday July 16, 2006, 06:42:21 AM

# GameLogs are machine-readable, so some lines will look like nonsense.
# To view in game, choose Options then Replay from the Main Menu.

GameType : Hearts Lobby
ClientBuild: 73
ServerBuild: 64
GameID : 6590915
TeamGame : False
Rules : Rated, 300 pts, Timeout, Cut Deck, No Shoot Bonuses, Jack of Diamonds, Spot Hearts, Always Pass
GameFlags : 00010001
LocalPlayer: South 418402
Host : South

PlayerJoined South 418402: XtesterX
PlayerName 418402: XtesterX
PlayerInfo 418402: {}Ogre{}
Score : Team 0 has 0 Points
Score : Team 1 has 0 Points
Score : Team 2 has 0 Points
Score : Team 3 has 0 Points
HandScore: South 0 points
HandScore: West 0 points
HandScore: North 0 points
HandScore: East 0 points
PlayerName 418402: XtesterX
PlayerJoined West 34 Bot: Uno
PlayerInfo 34: NONE{}Unicorn{}
PlayerJoined North 6368 Bot: Joan de Arc
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PlayerJoined East 37 Bot: Sir Lancelot
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Chat Message from South 0 "XtesterX" = bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
PlayerLeft 6368: Joan de Arc
PlayerJoined North 33 Bot: Smoot
PlayerInfo 33: NONE{}Smoot{}
PlayerLeft 34: Uno
PlayerJoined West 6368 Bot: Joan de Arc
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Chat Message from South 0 "XtesterX" = aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
PlayerLeft 37: Sir Lancelot
PlayerJoined East 6372 Bot: Elly the Troll
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GameLog closed Sunday July 16, 2006, 06:43:04 AM

Signature: A882C2E0AC185D018FB36720F98E5A13

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Post by Memphoman » Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:56 pm

this continues to be an on going problem. Now game hosts are being told by Guides to file reports. Since admin is unable to review the actions of players that continue to enter games that the host has kicked them from prior to the games actually starting, how in the world is filing a report going to make 1 bit of difference?

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Post by Memphoman » Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:15 pm

update...today, Guide whom shall remain nameless, told player that it is programming problem(doh) and will be fixed shortly????

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Post by XtesterX » Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:07 pm

excellent news, if true.....
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Post by Memphoman » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:52 pm

CONTINUES to be a problem, player is kicked, then returns, returns, returns and continues to return...must be "rocket science" to fix this problem????

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