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7's and Up. Time to get real here!

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:59 pm
by In2ition
Ok with all the talk i've heard about this amongst a lot of players, i figured it was time to throw it to the powers that be and see what they can come up with.

7's Up

Would it be that difficult Jonas, to have a 7's up option when setting a table?
This changes the game to great extents. The card distribution opens right up, people have to utilise their offsuit more, and there is not a loner every 2nd hand. While i understand that Hardwood is an American owned site, your membership spans the world and therefore fresh ideas and alternative ways of playing are vast. 7's up is a very common way, and more popular way of playing in a lot of countries. I can't see it being that hard to have it as an option.

:twisted: At the very least it will shake up Smoots and the high rated games. That reason alone should at least make it an entertaining thought for the programmers :twisted:

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:38 pm
by callme7
Oh yes Sir that's the game of all euchre games. The rules of the very 1st Euchre game played are with a deck of 32 cards, and 12 dead in the Kitty. Everything else is a shortened version. In my wild younger days we played so much euchre in the Armed Forces. The Canadian, Brits, Australian and New Zealanders all played with the 7s up deck, lmao i even taught some good old American boys the real game, they still play it. I really do love the Graphics of HW and as far as i am concerned they have the best Spades, Hearts and Euchre site on the Net, but the randomness of the deal is nonexistant with a Deck 9s up. With the 7s up game the Loners are put well in their place. I could see if HW had a 7s up game option i personally know at least another 60 players that would buy the game, they refuse to play the shortened version as it is now. We have mentioned this to HW before In2uition but a reminder is an excellent move. :)

Eennie Meenie

The G

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:54 am
by In2ition
I'm kinda curious now...... can either of the 2 "NO" voters maybe offer a reason for the negative vote? I'm merely asking for another option, the same as Brit rules, or cut or 15 points. If anyone has a reason as to why it shouldn't be an option, dont stay silent, chime in with yer 2 cents worth. Thats what the forum is for.

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:47 am
by The Zee
Hey ya'll. I started playin this game here in New Zealand 7's and up and its a great way to play. Dont get me wrong.. 9 up is cool but I would be rapped to play 7up on this site. Someone give us the choice. Try this for a game: 7up in the deck.. play to 11... order u p and ur goin alone.. no joker. KIWI STYLEZ 8)

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:20 pm
by Dust In The Wind
Being from NY, I have played Euchre a number of ways, we even played without 9's. 7up is cool and can be a lot of fun, so it has my vote as an option. Also played a variation where you could pull from the kitty (not able to bid if you did) with no Face, no trump in hand dealt.


PS - I would play it

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:40 pm
by In2ition
I'm hearin ya Matt, it's the way we play in Australia too. Especially the Must Go Alone If You Order Your P rule....... maybe it should be listed as the Pacific option when hosting a game lol, cause lets face it, it just wouldn't be right to call it Kiwi Rules! what do they know about euchre? hehehehe (watch him bite at that one).

For such a common way to play, and being the original format of the game, i don't think it's unreasonable to request it as an option.

Keep the opinions coming in though. Still waiting to hear from a negative voter.

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:10 am
by callme7
LMAO, yep we know Nussink as Terry would say.

Eennie Meenie

The G

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:14 am
by In2ition
If you were any good we'd only claim you as Aussies anyway.... Russel Crowe, Split Enz, Crowded House..... need i go on?? lol

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:37 pm
by American Beauty
I think it would be an excellent addition.

It would bring in more players, more competition and hey, change is good. ;)

It get's my vote. :)

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:29 pm
by Assumpta
I played for 20 years as 7s up and must go alone when you order your pard up (or turned down as we would say), this is the only way i thought euchre was played until I joined Hardwood.

This is how all Aussies play, and makes for a more strategic game as less known cards are in play. The Hardwood version seems much simplified to me.

I think it would be a great idea as an option.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:10 am
by Terry Brett

Why you ask? I'm ecstatic you asked that.....

i) It'll eliminate the 'loner' factor.
ii) Players can play euchre instead of putting up with senseless blocking.
iii) 'Next' will become less of an option and players will have to rely on ability instead of chance.
iv) The randomness of the deals should improve, or at least appear to.

Who in their right mind would vote against this?
Maybe a few who would have a little more difficulty counting the cards, after all there are 8 more cards to remember.
Heaven forbid, we might actually get this game right, people might not complain...nah, thats a human right!!!!

If 7 wasn't such a good number it wouldn't be considered lucky.
James Bond as '009'?
Imagine trying to comprehend the movie '9 Brides for 9 Brothers'....doesn't feel the same does it?

Go with 7...must be the one as it rhymes with heaven.


Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:38 am
by The Zee
Heres a thought... something i've seen on spades.

Why not add in options for all the different rule variations. Therefore you
- could select what deck i.e 7up, 9up - select end game i.e 11 points or 15 points etc - select joker/no joker std/no std - order and go alone or not - even have 4 handed cut throat option.
Geez, I hope the programmers dont see this. :wink:

7s & Up

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:28 pm
by harveyrabbit
Actually, playing euchre with a 32 card deck (7's through Aces) is not just an Australian/ New Zealand thing. I've come across five different euchre books published in the U.S. in the 19th century that all described euchre played with this deck. The only major difference was that the game usually ended at 5 points and had "jambones" and "jamborees" in addition to the loner.
Although I'm an American, I'd also like to convince Hardwood to create a "7's and Up" option of their euchre game.
However, don't you folks from down under think for one second that you're going to rule the roost in the 32 card games. Euchre is still commonly played with the larger deck in the American prison system (I don't know why though), where us "Yanks" get plenty of practice hours.

32 Card Deck

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:51 am
by Joe Andrews
I would be thrilled if this suggestion, the 32 card deck, (7's and up) was adopted. However, it will be a tough "nut" to crack, as most players have been raised on the standard (9's and up) game.

The current game (24 card deck) does place too much emphasis on Loners. However, that is what makes the 9's and up game so appealing - "Anyone can win on any given day"! :lol: Still, the good players do win consistently in the long run...

I am very willing to schedule and host an "exhibition" (7's and up) Euchre Tournament at the Grand Prix Live event (Sept. 14 - 16) in MI after the Main Tournament is concluded. We do have some players from AUS, NZ, GB, and Canada who are familiar with this variation.

Good Luck with your endeavor to bring the 7's game to HW!

Re: 7's and Up. Time to get real here!

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:13 am
by maktub