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Euchre Cheats

Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 5:40 pm
by Terry Brett
There is a growing unrest in the HW Euchre room as more and more players become aware of repeat cheaters. I, personally have reviewed game logs against the suspect nics and find the calls and plays far too perfect on a regular basis. This is not possible in euchre, we all find a wrong lead or an over anxious bid. The person(s) involved are now aware they are under scrutiny and are trying different tactics to throw us off the scent. Throwing games, playing cheating nic against cheating nic, starting new nics etc. I have submitted a report to HW which involves 13 games against some of these nics. I had to continually change nics to be incognito, as when they realised my task they would boot me. I urge all players who suspect strongly a nic(s) is cheating to report it. WE WANT A CLEAN EUCHRE SITE!! It seems ADMIN has taken our cause to heart and removed the offenders. Cheers :D

Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 12:21 pm
by Hero
I'm very curious who you have on that list.

Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:11 pm
by American Beauty
You are not alone, Hero. However, that list shall be submitted to administration for their eyes only.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:24 pm
by Tony A
i see a lot of "i have this card i have that card" and that is ridiculous, ruins the point of the game.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:42 pm
by NanaGram
Tony, you shouldn't be seeing that message during a game. That is "table talk" and it would be most helpful if you would file a report before you leave that table.

SCE won't be able to do anything about it unless they are alerted to the problem. You've taken the first step by bringing it here. Please take a moment to send the game log number to the people who can and WILL do something about all valid complaints.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:02 pm
by Dust In The Wind
As Nana said filing is your most effective tool as a player and can make a big diff. in how things go. A guide can only see what takes place after they enter a room and nothing prior to that. By filing a report within the room the game number will be included in the report otherwise you have to do a replay and get the game number that way. This works cheating, cussing and just plain old abuse.

JUST DUST

PS - YES, you can make a diff.

cheaters

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:11 am
by Stan The Man
It seems that if u are a good player, and now how to read the cards, then u are a cheater, i for one very rarely will ever pass , i call on just about anything, but this makes me a cheater? I play with people who will call next no matter what, wether they have trump or not, sumtimes it works, sumtimes it doesnt, but this doesnt make them a cheater. maybe there are people who cheat on here, but some people take it a little too far, if u think sumone is cheating, file a report, dont sit in a game and go off on them, escpecially when u have no idea what your talking about. It is real easy to be the tough guy on a keyboard when ur cussing at a computer screen...............................p.s dont forget to send the game chat with that list im sure it is interesting

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:24 am
by NanaGram
Good points Stan. I will sometimes make a call that is totally off the wall - and make my point.

When you file a report, the game log number should be all you need. To find that game log number, right click on your profile then click on WEB PROFILE. That shows your last 25 games. When you find the game in question, copy that game log number and add it to your report form. It will include any and all chat that occured during that game.

The easiest way to file a report is to do it before you leave the table - when you click on File a Report (from the game itself) it already includes the game log number and chat, everything involved in that one game.

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:11 pm
by American Beauty
The cry cheaters have been getting really annoying lately.

Most <MOST> (!) of our players DO NOT cheat!

If I see players calling others a cheat, it will be treated like all other name-calling.

Not tolerated.

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:46 am
by Terry Brett
Well, it seems this whole cheating accusation thing has gone berserk since the recently cited players were banned and have just come back on board. I can not and will not condone what they did, but now they are back lets give them a fair go (although, personally I will not play them when they pair up, but individually is fine with a known clean partner). There will always be cheating, but lets get on with it, too many people are jumping at shadows. Just because a play comes off doesn't constitute cheating. If you are uncertain, replay the game (if you don't know how ask a guide) and make a judgement based on the whole game, not one hand. Any anomalies will show up if you continue to adopt that practice. SO LAY OFF THE NAME CALLING AND GET ON WITH IT. THE WHOLE SCENARIO IS WEARING PAPER THIN. Have a nice day.... :evil:

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:28 am
by x MISSY x
ITS JUST A GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:40 am
by American Beauty
yes, it's just a game. All the more maddening when people cheat.

It's a place to test skill. Many kinds of skill. It takes skill to make the most out of a crappy hand. It takes skill to read the cards just right so that you can tell what's been dealt all around. It takes guts to call at times. It takes patience to keep your cool when others are rude. It takes goodsportsmanship to be a good winner, as well as a good loser. It takes a good deal of restraint to hold my tongue at times.

Test me, test me, test me in many ways. I fail, I fail, I win, I conquer my temper, I overcome, I am beaten... I know more of myself and of you. But dammit, don't cheat me.

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:52 pm
by Dust In The Wind
WOW AB nice swing mode there. Yes it is very frustrating when someone has to cheat to win a GAME and makes the whole purpose of playing the FUN thing that is a GAME.

It does get on anyones nerves and cause adverse conditions in the brain which can and usually does results in a volcanic distruption and solaric arms want to reach out create utter destruction upon the object(s) that created this disturbance in realm of the force.

BUT,

We must calm, realize that it is a GAME and the ole words "Cheaters never really win and they will eventually lose it all" and take the time to REPORT the actions that they have taken against my RIGHT to have FUN at the GAME I LOVE TO PLAY.

It makes me a better person to not even acknowledge that have cheated me and contiue to play them while reporting the problem to SCE and if they are open at that time they can look at it live and see how many games they are cheating at. Yes this may effect my rating on that nic and take my frustrations a little further but then again I am helping catch that person that has decided that FAIR is not part of the dictionary.

This isn't the only GAME that cheating has been addressed, Hearts, Spades, Baseball, Hockey, Football, Soccer, Race Driving, boxing the list is endless.

JUST DUST

PS - If you don't deal with the problem the right way it still remains!

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:10 pm
by jdub4key
The argument that its just a game - relax doesnt compute with me. Why would I sit in front of a computer and waste time to lose. What is the purpose. If this is just a game go play Solataire!!!!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:42 pm
by Red Red_ Wine
The cheating problem has become much worse since yahoo introduced talking in real time. Before at least the cheats had to type messages to each other now they just talk as if on the phone.

Senario:-
Dealer, North passes a 9 of Diamonds, East calls a Club, leads a Jack of Hearts, South plays King of Hearts, West trumps in with Jack of Clubs then leads Queen of Clubs which wins East then says "gg suckers" and West TRAMs. On revewing the game I saw that West had queen up to Right of clubs East had Jack Hearts, Jack Diamond, Ace Diamonds and 9 + 10 of Spades is this a NEXT call?

This did happen I was South and I have my doubts.